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Forum: Road Cycling
09-09-21, 07:47 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I set the seat post clamp of my bike stand to a...

I set the seat post clamp of my bike stand to a horizonal position, then clamp a wooden rake handle (True Temper 48 in. Tapered Rake Replacement Handle-2026800 - The Home Depot...
Forum: Road Cycling
09-08-21, 10:01 AM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Got it. Trying to order more OMS now.

Got it. Trying to order more OMS now.
Forum: Road Cycling
09-07-21, 10:17 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I thought the odorless mineral spirits (or...

I thought the odorless mineral spirits (or another petroleum distillate solvent, e.g., naphtha) is only needed for the initial degreasing (i.e., prior to the first waxing) to remove factory grease...
Forum: Road Cycling
09-07-21, 05:39 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

You guys are probably right that my cleaning...

You guys are probably right that my cleaning regiment is not necessary from now on. I first waxed this chain only after about 300 initial miles with the Shimano factory grease, so did some extra...
Forum: Road Cycling
09-05-21, 07:36 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Labor Day Weekend Update. Put another almost 200...

Labor Day Weekend Update. Put another almost 200 miles on the chain since my end of July update, including a ride two weeks ago when I was caught in a drizzle that did not show up in either weather...
Forum: Road Cycling
08-02-21, 12:40 AM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I am also not aware of anyone who has documented...

I am also not aware of anyone who has documented such a comparison.



But nonetheless, I am not sure that the first pre-waxing cleaning "makes minimal difference" if the chain has factory grease...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-31-21, 09:54 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I have read the same too but I have also read...

I have read the same too but I have also read many anecdotal reviews stating that waxed chains are whisper quiet. I suppose that discrepancy is due to the prior state of chain maintenance on lube.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-31-21, 02:50 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

End of July Update. Second ride after second wax...

End of July Update. Second ride after second wax application, 33 miles this morning, so total mileage is about 58 miles. Over the course of about the latter half of my ride, the chain seems to...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-30-21, 11:00 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

The most recent time I left the chain for half an...

The most recent time I left the chain for half an hour in the melted paraffin in the Crock Pot on low with the cover on, swishing a few times; I think this is sufficient time for the chain to reach...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-30-21, 10:49 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Dang, you guys got good deals. But a 2 quart...

Dang, you guys got good deals. But a 2 quart Crock Pot fits my chain so neatly in a single layer.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-29-21, 08:33 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I read this somewhere else. To clean the wax,...

I read this somewhere else. To clean the wax, someone suggests adding a cup of water into the Crock Pot before turning it on. After the paraffin melts, it floats on top of the hot water, and the dirt...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-29-21, 08:30 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

2 quart is the right size (for about 1 pound of...

2 quart is the right size (for about 1 pound of wax). I have nothing against Amazon, but unless you are dead set on the Star Wars shell, this one is < $ 11 at walmart.com:

Crock-Pot 2 Quart Round...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-29-21, 11:46 AM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Better late than never! From what I have read a...

Better late than never! From what I have read a clean chain promotes adhesion between the paraffin and the chain's metal surface. That said, the first time I waxed my chain it was probably a little...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-29-21, 10:39 AM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Thank you to masi61 and to jaxgtr for confirming...

Thank you to masi61 and to jaxgtr for confirming their use of lower temperatures. Heat wave plus work means no rides so far this week, so no updates on the waxed chain's performance.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-29-21, 12:18 AM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

What temperature setting did you use on the...

What temperature setting did you use on the Instant Pot?
Forum: Road Cycling
07-28-21, 08:41 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

OK, thanks for the advice.

OK, thanks for the advice.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-28-21, 02:07 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

From what I have seen online, a Crock Pot (the...

From what I have seen online, a Crock Pot (the specific brand) is about 220 *F on low and 300 *F on high; the latter is definitely not needed to melt the wax but I am curious whether the increased...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-28-21, 02:27 AM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Depending on the mileage I get out of my first...

Depending on the mileage I get out of my first wax, I am debating doing the next wax with the Crock Pot on high (instead of low), which should speed things up and result in less wax left on the chain...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-27-21, 11:12 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Plus it is nice to have the PTFE, MoS2, and/or...

Plus it is nice to have the PTFE, MoS2, and/or WS2 mixed in at the right ratio already. Imagine the clean up necessary if you sneeze at an inopportune moment when you are about to pour those...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-27-21, 11:23 AM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

The current Shimano Ultegra/XT chain (CN-HG701)...

The current Shimano Ultegra/XT chain (CN-HG701) is directional according to the instructions that come with the chain.



Thanks for this tip, I will have to pay attention to this aspect next...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-27-21, 11:18 AM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Thank you for posting an alternative to OMS which...

Thank you for posting an alternative to OMS which is actually available in SoCal.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-26-21, 11:41 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I am using Gulf Wax on its own for now. I also...

I am using Gulf Wax on its own for now. I also bought a kilogram of Silca wax; I figured both Silca and Zero Friction deserve my business after I researched and analyzed their instructions so...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-26-21, 04:23 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

That is good to know. Probably because it is so...

That is good to know. Probably because it is so difficult to remove all factory grease and prior lube in the initial cleaning, such that each subsequent waxing further cleans the chain.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-26-21, 04:17 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

​​​​​​​ The same rear derailleur, the...

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The same rear derailleur, the same chain, and the same cassette were shifting perfectly for almost 400 miles of riding before I cleaned and waxed the chain, so I doubt it is the rear...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-26-21, 04:07 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I installed chain with words facing outwards...

I installed chain with words facing outwards (i.e., to the right) as indicated by the instructions that came with the chain. My initial shifting problem was that the chain refuse to upshift, i.e.,...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-26-21, 02:16 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Yes, but I don't have a heat gun.

Yes, but I don't have a heat gun.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-26-21, 02:01 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I will wipe the chain upon removal from crock pot...

I will wipe the chain upon removal from crock pot next time I wax the chain; I suspect the excess wax on the outside is causing my initial shifting problems. Do I need to be concerned about leaving...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-26-21, 01:54 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

The waxing part is easy. The chain cleaning prior...

The waxing part is easy. The chain cleaning prior to waxing is the part which is tough.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-26-21, 12:33 AM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Refined paraffin wax has a melting point of at...

Refined paraffin wax has a melting point of at least 115 *F, and even then it takes time to melt, so you are fine leaving the wax in a Crock Pot in the garage for now, until global warming gets worse.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-26-21, 12:31 AM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I was too concerned about removing too much wax...

I was too concerned about removing too much wax the first two times I did it, but next time I will at least wipe off the outer link plates.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-23-21, 11:44 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Friday evening update: Finally, partial success!?...

Friday evening update: Finally, partial success!?

Crock Pot on low for about 3 hours to melt wax, then chain was immersed and swished a few times for half an hour. Then Crock Pot off and chain was...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-23-21, 11:15 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

In the YouTube link in redlude97 's post above,...

In the YouTube link in redlude97 's post above, Josh from Silca recommends an Instant Pot over a Crock Pot, mostly for the much faster heating time. My wife has one which she rarely uses, but it is 6...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-23-21, 03:10 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Not the Silca wax that Josh was demonstrating!...

Not the Silca wax that Josh was demonstrating! $40 for half kilogram (i.e., 1.1 pound) bag.

Friday afternoon update: Chain soaked in OMS for 2 days, and after a few rounds of vigorous shaking, the...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-22-21, 12:18 AM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Josh does that to keep more wax on the chain,...

Josh does that to keep more wax on the chain, whereas there was too much wax on the chain in my first attempt.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-21-21, 10:11 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I got into waxing to get a clean drive train...

I got into waxing to get a clean drive train because I like to tinker with my bike. I ride < 3,000 miles a year so the additional longevity of the chain is not a huge benefit. I have had decent...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-21-21, 10:04 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

That seems like a long time! Do the...

That seems like a long time!



Do the wax flakes stick on your bike or fall off during the ride?



Yeah, that has been my experience so far.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-21-21, 06:52 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

That was definitely the case the first time when...

That was definitely the case the first time when I only used acetone, which, as redlude97 pointed out and I now realized, is not good enough a solvent for any residual factory grease and/or Rock N...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-21-21, 06:39 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Wednesday afternoon progress update. Saw quite a...

Wednesday afternoon progress update. Saw quite a lot of black gunk on the chain, cassette, jockey wheels, rear derailleur, right chain stay, and chain rings, and almost decided right then to quit...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-21-21, 01:55 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

That is what I have gleaned from various...

That is what I have gleaned from various instructions too, that dipping a chain at ambient temperature into the Crock Pot cools the immediately surrounding wax which deters flow into the chain until...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-21-21, 01:49 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

This is exactly the Zen state I am working toward.

This is exactly the Zen state I am working toward.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-21-21, 12:37 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I have found odorless mineral spirits at an arts...

I have found odorless mineral spirits at an arts & craft supply store. Camp stove gas was going to be the next alternative.

Thank you everyone for all the comments. I now realize I need to wipe...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-21-21, 12:09 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

To allow the chain, which is at ambient...

To allow the chain, which is at ambient temperature, to reach the temperature of the melted wax (210 *F). Now that the wax has taken the shape of the crock pot, next time I will just heat both wax...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-20-21, 10:32 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Last time I put my bike chain in straight Purple...

Last time I put my bike chain in straight Purple Power degreaser, put it on top of the laundry machine to agitate, then left it overnight. The chain was pretty clean, but then it had a broken link...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-20-21, 10:12 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

This is the part I am not accomplishing. ...

This is the part I am not accomplishing.



There is a low VOC version for California so I doubt that the solvent is naphtha, given that naphtha is not available as a solvent at any of the home...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-20-21, 10:07 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I don't find the crock pot part difficult. It is...

I don't find the crock pot part difficult. It is the deep cleaning part to remove factory grease and prior oil-based lube that I seem unable to manage.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-20-21, 09:43 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Really? I understand Squirt is similar to Smoove,...

Really? I understand Squirt is similar to Smoove, for which Zero Friction Cycling has very daunting application instructions, including similarly stringent cleaning steps:
...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-20-21, 08:27 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

After a first test ride of only 23 miles, the...

After a first test ride of only 23 miles, the chain and drivetrain are much dirtier looking than expected, but at least nowhere as greasy as with lube. I suppose the 4x acetone wash did not clean the...
Forum: Road Cycling
07-20-21, 08:22 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I hope so too. I will see next time.

I hope so too. I will see next time.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-20-21, 08:21 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

No, the issue happened when the bike was mounted...

No, the issue happened when the bike was mounted on the work stand.



Thank you. I will keep that in mind for the next time.
Forum: Road Cycling
07-20-21, 08:19 PM
Replies: 166
Views: 14,348
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Thanks for the tip, I will try this the next time.

Thanks for the tip, I will try this the next time.
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