Well I'm happy for Doug that there is so much support on this forum for his decision. However, I'm one of those 60 year olds who rides on "weird moral grounds" who sees nothing but trouble when the current BICYCLE infrastructure is overrun by folks both young and old on motorbikes. I didn't get a motor bike for my son to help him keep up with me and I won't get one so that I can now keep up with him. I ride at my wife's pace when I ride with my wife. Maybe I should stay over on C&V where a bike is a bicycle as it seems that I am no longer 50+.