Old 09-11-23, 11:51 AM
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Without a designated left hand turn lane and no ability to signal, I would be hesitant to take the lane. If there is a designated turn lane I would have zero issue using that without signaling. I do it all the time with no problems

if scenario 1. I would cross the street and then stop and wait for the signal to change and then go with that cross traffic
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