Originally Posted by Kontact

I'm the bike fitter with a saddle business. Perhaps you're trolling me?

Watch a man and a women touch their toes from the side. Women bend primarily at the hips. Men bend both at the hips and a significant amount above the pelvis. Men roll their hips forward less than women on the bike because they bend at the waist.

You can fight that, but it is the natural way we bend, and allows hamstrings to support the upper body on the bike.