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Old 11-17-23, 11:32 PM
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big john
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I rarely have used a jacket and can put all extra layers in my rear pockets. I do have a cheap windbreaker I can wear over my base layer, lined jersey, and wind vest if there is going to be a long, cold descent. I can roll that into a pocket, too.

I have carried a light ski jacket in a Camebak.
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