Constructively argue that weight isn't all that important all you want: cyclists have been voting - with their pocketbooks - for lighter weight for 145 years.
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staehpj1
That is only any good if they all use exactly the same methods (what is/isn't included, what sized frame do they weigh, and so on) and are honest. Otherwise it just rewards the most biggest liar/most misleading brand.
This. I've seen it for 50 years. "Biggest liar wins."