Originally Posted by
icemilkcoffee
That explanation makes no sense. Don't you want to know how much the stock bike weighs before you start changing things? Also- basically all bike parts have known, published weights. It makes no sense for bike makers to be coy about the weights.
Agreed and many people do ride the stock bike. It is well understood that published bike weights don't include pedals and bottle cages, so those don't matter when comparing bikes.