Originally Posted by MikeDeason

Unless you have a Tween or early teen child, I don't think you can comprehend the power phones have over developing children. Even with strict conditions, blocking social media etc, the phone will take over their lives. I don't care how good a parent you think you are. I have seen it happen too many times to my friend's children and my children's friends.

I am far less concerned about the potential dangers of my 11 yr old venturing 12m from home than I am from her having a phone. Of course, our location plays a part in this security.

I will heed the advice about ditching the liners and just go with the Marathon Plus. I do not wish to suck all the joy out of recreational biking.