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I find the whole tenor of this conversation (from the Trucks on Narrow, Twisting Roads thread to this one) curious, particularly here in Advocacy & Safety.

To paraphrase:

JoeyBike : The roads down here seem unsafe
The collective wisdom of BF: You're probably doing it wrong.

A quick Google search:

South Carolina 5th most dangerous state for bicyclist, research says
https://www.foxcarolina.com/2022/05/...research-says/

For local cyclists, hazardous roadways are ‘a matter of life and death’
https://greenvillejournal.com/commun...ife-and-death/

In Memorium: Pedestrians and Bicyclists in Greenville County
https://bikewalkgreenville.org/2023/...nville-county/

If we as cyclists have trouble recognizing that a fellow cyclist feeling unsafe on a road may have everything to do with the road itself and not their ability as a cyclist, how can we expect the public at large to recognize the dangers of our car-centric infrastructure to people not in cars?
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