Old 04-29-24, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cyclezen
My take on the OP's question was his suprise, given the published approx weight by the Manufacturer, that a lb.+ is a significant deviation from what was published. Especially given his smaller sized frame/bike. All the components are a know quantity, quality frame should also not have much deviation, so a lb+ is a lot.

My post was mainly to 'confirm' that what he found was probably 'reality', not a major anomaly in just his bike.

In my case, I bought the bike fully knowing what I was getting, and not expecting more. Also fully expecting to be making some changes. Having ridden 'THIS' bike before committing to purchase.
Not unhappy with the bikes I currently ride a lot. If I can make this new bike feel as 'nice' as those - great! AND fully intending to make changes, upgrades if that fits, to see what might have a significant effect on 'ride', and see if 'weight' also is part of the story. It's an experiment...
If I can bring it to level of my current road bikes, which are all 10 yrs old or older, then Great ! If not, I'll sell it for whatever it might go for... No issues, no problem.
It's not the money, I have a bunch of fun learning what this experiment might teach me.
If I had spent 4 times what this bike cost me, I'd have very, very high expectations, and hopefully, mostly have them met... My expected changes will cost about half again of the bike cost, which would still be considered a bargain compared to the price of a similarly fitted 'Off the Shelf' bike cost.
I think most knowing riders also know that 'weight' isn;t everything, but it is a 'thing'.... So for a bike with $3400 MSRP, one might expect it to be in the 'light' road bike category... 21+ lbs is not that, compared to the similar bike, 19ish lb, of 8-10 yrs ago which prolly sold for $2K-$2.2K.
SO, with this thread a lot of questions get asked, some answers might be found, some not.
And, it also addresses expectations, so met, some not even close.
So, if one has expectations to be able to get a 'light bike from TREK (and other bike makes?), well under 20 lbs, it might not be met by even a $5k bike... ?
For some this might be an important consideration.
Ride On
Yuri
and , yes, I prefer my 2014 Tarmac well over any of my old gaspipe, and many of the 'great' newer bikes I've had some opportune miles to log a few miles on...
Not a plug for Spec or Tarmac, it's just a bike I like a lot. But had the experiment be able to be done with an ORBEA, WILLIER, CERVELO or RIDLEY, instead of a TREK, I would have quickly jumped on that.
Yes the components are a known quantity but they are also manufactured and there is plenty of variations in manufacturing plus adding in unweighed pedals and unweighed tubeless set up and not knowing how Trek weighed their bike. Frequently they will weigh a pre-production sample missing certain parts to help get the weight down or they will have to replace a part during the production that has a different weight from the single bike they weighed.

Originally Posted by Sy Reene
Think of it this way perhaps with a slightly different scenario.

A Domane SLR frameset only supposedly saves 1/2 lb over the OP's Domane SL frameset. The premium for the SLR frameset is $1700 over the cost of the SL. If he had instead purchased an SLR bike and it actually weighed 1/2lb over what an SL bike would have supposedly weighed, you might be a bit upset about not understanding what your $1700 actually bought you.
Sure that is fair but nothing is scientific enough here to really know if anything is correct. Obviously if you are spending money and it turns out significantly heavier and you paid more that is frustrating but we don't know the full situation on any side.
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