Originally Posted by Dockhead

Then there's this: https://www.vaastbikes.eu/e1 and here: https://www.vaastbikes.eu/model-e-1-rohloff/
Full suspension bike (unlike all the others I'm looking at), and with an extremely cool rear suspension setup.
Good racks and carrying
Does not have the top CX Bosch motor.
But it has ROHLOFF [drool]
With the very low bottom gear in the Rohloff, the more powerful CX motor might not be needed (and battery will last longer).
It's being sold by one German dealer on Ebay for €5800, so €2.5k less than the comparable Riese & Müller, which has the top Bosch motor but no rear suspension.
This is intriguing. My Jetstream has a high end full suspension on it which I'm very grateful for (cobblestones, curbstones, etc.), but it's more important with the little 20" wheels, than it would be in this application.