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Originally Posted by Koyote
I’m a little bit confused now: you’ve been claiming that the “high-end” jerseys are no better than your cheapies. Is that the argument? Because now you seem to be arguing that they’re just not worth the asking prices - which is a very different thing. “Worth“ is subjective. If you’re stating that those jerseys are not “worth it” to you, you’ll get no argument for me. But hopefully you can acknowledge that for other riders – – people who have other priorities and goals, who ride longer distances and perhaps on different terrain, and who have different budgets – – those expensive jerseys may be “worth it.”.

I’ll add this: if you’ve only ever tried on these jerseys in stores, you should have at least noticed that they are made of better textiles, they fit better, etc. Even then, you’re not really equipped to judge their performance. For that, you need to ride in a really good jersey – – you might notice that it wicks moisture and regulates body temperature better, that it has less extraneous fabric to flap in the breeze, that the pockets are easier to access and hold things more securely, that it does not ride up in back or droop down like a cheap jersey, etc. A lot of good cycling apparel feels like it fits poorly when you’re standing up in a shop, and then it’s perfect once you’re on a bike in riding position. Lots of little seemingly small improvements add up to a big leap in quality.

Again, I’m not arguing that this kind of apparel should be “worth it“ to you. But for you to judge it without ever trying it? That’s just silly.
The problem I have with the more expensive jerseys is.. Well it's not actually a problem but rather the fact that I don't need to up my price range. I've found that pearl izumi jerseys fit me really well. And since I'm vertically and to an extent horizontally challenged (shoulder width wise) it's difficult to find jerseys I can even get on.

I'll grant you that the fit and finish, design and aerodynamics get better with price. Designing clothes is difficult and complicated fit features are both difficult to design but also to sew together which shows up in price. I recently had to re sew a necktie and there is a reason why those things cost as much as they do. But if fit factors become unnecessary, the argument of better fabrics stops holding water after reaching a certain price point. Synthetic technical fabrics are really inexpensive and there isn't that much price variation between the high end and dirt cheap.*

The izumi jerseys I have use really good fabrics. I have some similarly priced jerseys which don't get near the same level. I've also had some top tier Italian boutique jerseys which and the fabrics were frankly pretty similar.

* In summer fabrics. Winter technicals gets a bit more complicated because then we get waterproof factors which cause pretty high price variation.
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