Originally Posted by rideon7

Well said, Workbiker! And I think this attitude extends, or should extend, to other occupations. A big part of what you said relates to ethics, self-reliance, pride in the tools necessary to do a job well, which extends to actually doing the job well. Each person who has these feelings knows how old it gets taking up the slack for those who don't get it. Some learn and then get it; others never will.