So, some news.
I finally went to swap out the components on this old road bike from the 70s
Miche 9 speed cassette
9 speed crankset/chainwheels
9 speed Front and rear derailleurs
If all that worked, I'd look into SIS shifters.
So I took off the 8 speed cassette
But the 9 speed cassette rubbed against the frame.
Very disappointing.
These same wheels have been used with an 8 speed cassette on this old road bike.
And a 10 speed cluster, on my Surly Cross Check.
The 9 speed Miche cassette went on the hub ok.
But the frame ended up being the compatabilty issue.
Originally, this bike came with a thinner 5 speed freewheel.
Probably 126 mm hub spacing.
That was widened for the newer, wider hubs/cassettes.
Surprise!
Who knew?