Neokyo was a big yawn to me... rode the 24km route and had no idea where I was most of the time and esp. didn't like the twisty bits that they put in... for steering users I guess? I didn't really find the rest of the Makuri world to be very interesting and especially not keen on their virtual gravel either. I spent two winters with zwift but have decided to try out fulgaz this winter, new roads are mostly what I want and they seem to be adding new rides to fulgaz all the time.