Originally Posted by Bonzo Banana

You'd think that logically but that isn't how the certification is written sadly.

When you see that symbol it shows bike+rider+luggage=105kg it actually means including the weight of the bike. It isn't very common sense and may be something more related to Europe than elsewhere. If you read the manuals below (scan for kg) you will see the btwin bike has a total weight allowance of 100kg including the weight of the bike and the Carrera/13 manual has a weight limit of 160kg including the weight of the bike. I've double checked my bike and it is a combined weight of 105kg on mine sadly not 115kg. However many cycle manuals give clearer instructions and don't mention this stupid combined weight rubbish but I think some bikes that have low strength weak frames like to show the maximum weight including the bike weight because they think it looks better. What annoys me about this is that if they give a standard maximum capacity like 100kg like btwin that means a 8kg carbon bike allows for a 92kg rider without luggage but a 18kg comfort bike only has a weight capacity of 82kg despite being much stronger. So it makes little sense and you have to bypass your logic chip to accept it.

http://www.btwin.com/notices/wp-cont...5V_EN_PE12.pdf

http://www.halfords.com/wcsstore/lib...manual_new.pdf