Originally Posted by Doug Fattic

I 100% know Jeff Bock built John Karris's RAGBRAI frame. I met Jeff on my 1st RAGBRAI in 1978 and almost every year after that we would ride together for one day. Occasionally I would ride a few miles with Karris too. If memory serves, he has passed away. I haven't done RAGBRAI in a long time. I usually spend 3 weeks in the summer working on our bike project in Bucha, Ukraine and it was difficult to slip one more week of vacation into the summer. Someone must stop for me at the home made ice cream place that uses really old gasoline engines to turn the ice cream makers. I never passed that stop by wherever it was.