Originally Posted by
saddlesores
a shame you guys don't seem to understand.
OP wants a bike, and is looking at popular gravel bikes. ....
I somewhat agree with you. Touring to one person means four panniers, to the next two panniers, to someone else it means bikepacking gear, and to yet someone else it is credit card touring. So, it is nice to know more about their plans if we are asked to assess their choices for equipment.