I don't have a problem with the CL guy trying to get full price for a bike he didn't pay full price for - his profit margin isn't an issue. The bike is worth what it is worth, period. If someone thinks it's worth full price and pays it, then that is the value. Otherwise, it's like saying you shouldn't sell your house for market value when it has appreciated, because you didn't pay current market value. Sheesh. Maybe he moved on during the interminable wait for the product and just decided it was easier to sell them once received rather than trying to sell a backer position, and possibly more lucrative as well. He lost any investment value on his money for years, he ran the risk of getting nothing, I'm actually fine with him getting more than he paid. But then, I'm not going to buy his Helixes, lol. But for someone out there who wants them and doesn't want to wait a looooong time to get them, full price is a bargain.