well ordered the Karoo. I got my ppp loans forgiven so I feel rich (G) one thing that really annoys me about garmin is if I am in the basement at work or such were there is no signal and end my ride or when its charging and is done it will start a ride because it thinks I am moving because I have auto pause at 6mph. isa very annoying. having a speed sensor took care of it but thats not a real solution as the batteries don't last that long on them.