Since Neil seemed so taken with the Dickhead statement, I thought I should clarify what I thought was inferred, that someone actually giving another person grief over riding an ebike, either in the analog world or online, could be considered one. I was not referring simply having an opinion on whether or not its considered bicycle touring. I could give a wet slap about that, and did not mean to call anyone on this thread a name. I simply always wonder how one acts in the flesh compared to online. Would anyone in either camp get up in someones grill about this issue in person? If you are touring on an electric assist bicycle your not going to sneer at someone who takes longer up the hill or rides shorter days, and if you are traveling on a non motorized bicycle and run into an ebiker touring, odds on your not going to lecture them about the Purity of the Turf. At least you shouldn't...