I found the "Souke Sports Men's Cycling Underwear Shorts 4D Padded" work just as well as Pearl Izumi shorts that cost more than three times as much. Souke shorts are $25. Caveat is that I'm a 30" waist, which is unusual in Americans 50+, but maybe not among cyclists. Their size chart indicates 28" - 32" for size Medium. I have the PI also, and no preference between them.