Originally Posted by
greatscott
Yeah, I'm sure I'm splitting hairs, but your explanation did indeed point me toward the Masi more than the Kona because I'm looking for a dedicated touring bike that will be used mostly on the road but I want the ability to use on gravel and dirt if necessary.
Yeah, I can see that especially since the stock Tubus racks on the Giramono are among the very best. Unfortunately for a long unsupported tour some things would need to be changed on both bikes. For the Sutra I'd probably get better racks, but everything else seems fine. For the Giramondo I'd probably get a better saddle and maybe beefier wheels and tires.. In terms of overall quality and value they do seem to be among the best production touring bikes. As I said, I think the Salsa Marrakesh is also a strong contender as a dedicated all-road touring bike while the Sutra and Giramondo are better for a combination of touring, commuting and some single-track.
Great discussion.
