back in the day I found most bike shorts and similar too 'flimsy' for me - material was too thin ; not enough support and padding too thin
eventually I did find some 8 panel (?) shorts sold by Nashbar and Performance that were a step up (compared to 4 and 6 panel shorts) ... material thicker and much better pad
this was a long time ago
more recently - wear padded MTB cargo shorts ... found them on eBay (at significantly reduced price) ... I believe one pair is REI - the other Endura (Endura Humvee ?)
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