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Just a side note, but the ones I've seen at my local Walmarts, Coleman-branded and made in France, are not 'all-weather' mixes. I was just out in low 40s-high 30s and I learned I would've had a lot of trouble with one of those if I didn't have a back up MSR canister. I hope these new ones come with some propane in them.
Frankly, few people are going to go touring in those conditions so it’s not something they are really going to need to worry about. I’m not suggesting HellMart canisters as a main use but only as a “if I run out in Podunk, USA (or Canada)” there is a ready source available.