After twenty five or more years of dealing with little five hundred bikes; I've seen way more of them than I can handle! From red-line to Bendix to Shimano, I think I can rebuild one in a coma. A complete wheel build on one is about 35 minutes and even at that it still is hard to get me to work on one. They are fine products and very service oriented wheels and do a good job. But not my current cup of lubrication. Smiles, MH