Originally Posted by Road Fan

I'm not saying shape is irrelevant to comfort, I'm saying levelness is irrelevant to comfort. We each need to find a way to maximize comfort for any saddle we buy (or receive as a birthday present), or be prepared to let it rot on the shelf or dispose of it. I'm saying to find comfort, you need to set the saddle up for comfort, not for "levelness." So the whole discussion about "how to find levelness" is irrelevant, because the goal is comfort, not levelness. At least for me, setting a saddle to "level" does not automatically deliver comfort. Finding comfort or maximizing it can be a lengthy iterative adventure, or you could strike it rich on the first padal stroke. Maybe when it's "right" it will be level, or maybe it won't.