Hi all,

im investigating new frames as the reach on my current bike is not really long enough. I’m already on a 140 stem and I’m still not able to get the position I want.

so looking around at many manufacturers I’m seeing a lot of the top tier frames have quite short reach numbers. The brand S1NEO caught my eye - seems like a lot of bike for the money and has Francois Pervis name attached to the design.

Anyway, look at the attached geometry table. How can their XL frame have such an impossibly short reach? Am I missing something? It doesn’t look like the bike has a bayonet fork so shouldn’t be an offset stem or anything.

Im new to interpreting geometry tables so I might be misunderstanding this but does this bike really have a super short reach?

similar sized look 875 has a reach of 460mm by comparison.