ironwood

There are a number of ways to get a bike for the roads less traveled.


The first is to convert an older steel frame bike to 650b. The smaller wheel diameter will allow you touse a wider tire. Some frames will accept 38mm wide tires and fenders, others will take 42mm tires with fenders.. these tires are just as fast on pavement, and permit you to ride dirt rads and trails..


Another possibility is to buy a bike from Rivendell or Crust, or Velo=Orange. Grant Petersen was one of the first to question the popularity of narrowrrow tires, and he is partially responsible for saving the 650B size from extinction. Crust has the Lightning Bolt and the Romanceur, Both look interesting


Then there are custom builders if your budget will permit it. The second bike in your second post looks like a custom.


You mention disc brakes and they seem to be taking over, however they require a stronger fork with less flex and shock absorption. In my opinion brazed on centerpulls work great. and permit the fork to flex..