Got a few pics taken. Bikes measure about 47 CTC on the seat tube and about 52 or so CTC on the top tube. And I goofed on their color, they're blue (I think I was thinking of a red bike I recently got or was working on). Tires are 27"x1-1/4, rims are Weinmanns, all four, both bikes, so I can fairly safely assume they're the original wheels. I didn't check the hubs. Chainrings are Sugino. Rear derailer is a Suntour 7 on both bikes.
Not sure what else would be helpfull to know for the database.