Originally Posted by pbass

That's why I stopped fighting my CC and just decided to use it for what it is. Even with all the experimenting like you did--bars, stems, heck as I say, I even tried a different size frame--and even with it being adjusted to (in theory) be more like my Kona Rove (which fits me perfectly), I still have a forward-leaning feel on the bike. I don't know bike fit tech but that's the only way I can describe it. I'm not after sitting bolt upright mind you--my Rove is drop bar and the hoods are just a smidge higher than the saddle and I can hang out on that bike all day. So now the CC is my singlespeed, flat bar bomber. Super fun, a little aggressive, and not for long days in the saddle (the Rove handles that).