Originally Posted by mschwett

lol, i didn't realize someone had died and left you in charge! i ride with my littlest one on the back of an "E-BSO" quite safely up to around 20mph, thanks very much. we go lots of places, some far enough away to make the difference between 12mph and 20mph very significant. when cars are generally going 20-25, it's also safer to go 20 than 12, pretty much keeping up with traffic.

this is the "bikes are toys" mentality that seems so common here. we don't just "enjoy an outing in the park." we go to school, errands, doctors appointments, bike to and from trains to more faraway places, etc.