THIS is for bicycle training friends of this thread. Ijust road around on the forth;and after bigtime lunch with family/friends My daughter wanted my car to go to the fireworks[any of my Marine friends who have trained in invasion tactics with a Navy fleet probably feel about as I do about fireworks after watching an island napalmed at night then the fleet blow it to hell] fireworks just aint worth the trouble.;///Any way I was taken home,/no bike because thay had lost the key to the locked bikes////Next morning [today]Its a cool clear early fall type morning so not waiting for an 8;00oclock ride I walk the 8mi. to my car./go to where IM repairing bikes fix two of then an antique triumph and a nice aluminum specialized then jumped on the trek for the training 20mi.I was tired on the hills but ive a feeling that the walking might be a good thing.///Your thoughts/KEnneth//did I mention Im tired.