I just put them on a spare bar, no cables, it's the shifter internals that feel stiff. As I said, it's for a beater project, a bike to ride around town mostly when hanging in the drops isn't advisable. I hadn't seen these before and they looked like fun. A change from my other bikes with Ergos, Sti, downtube or bar end shifters, rapidfire, indexed or friction etc. I know they're cheap and beginners level shifters, but diversification is the word here
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