Originally Posted by blinky

Thanks CX , - All my Shimano components were an upgrade installed by the local LBS - turning the barrel adjuster both ways had no impact and this could be a result of it not being initialized correctly - I'll try the grip 'n pull and re-initialize the barrel adjuster - and I must say you do have a way with words and I'm glad you spared me , at least for now , of the now famous RTFM refrain - but I did read the Shimano DM regards brakes but I got more useful info from the boys here at the Forum .