So…. did they come home with you? Both very nice and great deals. I’m not big on barcon shifters but I would overlook that for those deals. A tad small but nice. I just bought another bike over the weekend just for the wheels, second time I’ve done that! It seems the best way to get parts is to buy bikes? It works for me. A set of Super Champion 700c wheels with SS spokes laced to SunTour Superbe high flange hubs for $50. Catch? Had to buy an old Raleigh , I think , to get the wheels. The old frame will go to the co-op after I take a few things.