As it turns out the biggest issue is/was that I was trying to get my 155 mm+ butt on a 145 mm seat. All of the adjusting and riding is not going to help with this so I simply have to get the correct, for me, width saddle and work from there. I have a 160 mm Bontrager on it now and it made a huge difference. Rode 22 miles on it yesterday and it was a not at all a bad experience. So now at least I have a real direction. Thinking of going with a Fizik 160 mm Argo Tempo R next to see if the shorter seat would be of any help. Thanks again for all the input. I really appreciate it.
Frank.