Turns out wide swept back bars work better for me. I ride Jones with Ergon GC3 grips. I've pretty well found I don't really feel the need to move my hands all the time because they work so well. Only time I'll move them is with a raging headwind, where I'll use the aero position on the front bars. The downside is mounting a handle bar bag like an Ortlieb means it's really far forward, you can't open it easily while riding. I'm tempted to get some Koga Denhams just so the handlebar bag would be further back, but you've gotta stop collecting bars sometime, right? Right?