Originally Posted by
GamblerGORD53
Neither. Both are useless for anything but riding around.
That's a pretty odd comment; what would you do *beyond* riding around? Racing?
Both of those are pretty good bikes at the upper end of what most riders would use regularly, so I don't think either is a bad buy. They are better specced that pretty much anything I see at social group rides.
Though I'm not sure I'd recommend them to a new rider; you'd potentially be better off buying the Carrera or Voodoo Hybrids (Crossfire or Marasa) for 1/3rd of the price, ride them for a while to see what you like/dislike, then sell the old bike when it feels like you need something more and buy something good.