Originally Posted by Bah Humbug

AG yes, but even for me there's the problem that morning coffee + pre=hydration = sudden high-volume pee within an hour. Waiting until after it at home pushes the start out too late for the local climate. And yes, driving to a start is the kicker; 45' each way to either the big open roads we usually ride up north or the light gravel to the south. Even me so wouldn't want to do that without a bathroom break.