Yeah, even this born mountain goat is moving down in gear ratios as he ages. Still haven't gone compact double and super big cassette because I like triples too much but they all have 30 and smaller chainrings. (The 30 because it's a Campy Chorus on a race bike. Sweet crankset but I think 30 is as low as it gets,) Other bikes used to be 28s and are now 24s. With 28 cassettes and FWs, decently low.