Originally Posted by
mstateglfr
Ok, both having the same bar(reach, drop, and rise) evens things out a bit. Below is a picture of your current stem(red) and the new 58(blue). You can see that would need a 17deg positive rise stem in 110mm length to pretty much match your current setup. This is because the new 58 has 14mm less stack height. Technically you could use the 17deg positive rise 110mm stem and remove a 5mm spacer to get it to within 1mm of your current bike's handlebar position.
Point being- a new 58 would require a more heavily angled stem to get you close to/at where your position is now.
Where did you get your stack numbers from? I just put this together
https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/s...-comp-2021-61/ and from this it looks like the new 58 is 1mm higher stack and 2mm longer reach (not the -14mm stack you stated).
p.s. Have not yet gone in because I am waiting to hear from specialized that I can use their crash replacement program for 20% off.