Originally Posted by
genec
OK I gotta step in here for a second... So the original discussion was "cyclists blowing through red lights..."
Now it's gone around to FRAP and shoulder use and my state vrs your state...
Are cyclists still blowing through red lights somewhere?
Oh be quite, your state is the one that started the FRAP crap and motorist running red lights under the title of "right turn on red".
I still do not know why mr. bill thinks that I think Hawaii has better bicycle laws. We just have cops that do not go out of their way to ticket us for BS laws.