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Old 06-24-21, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Cpn_Dunsel
Sure, my 20 year-old, still working frame pump has a carbon foot print. Touche ~ !

But you claiming it uses as much raw materials as disposable cartridges? Many of them never even get used and are disposed of improperly. Also, good pumps do not simply 'die in the field.' If it is working at the start of a ride it's ginna be working when needed during a ride.

Please. I am neurotic dude, no doubt, but that is going too far even for me {insert appropriate emoticon here}.
My comment was based on LDL's statement-
My Zefal broke in two after a small drop, so I don't recommend it.
- I have no idea how long LDL's pump lasted- could have been 1 week or 10 years, not sure. Either way, LDL doesnt recommend it so LDL clearly didnt find value in it.
- I didnt claim it uses as much raw materials as disposable cartridges. I simply said a full size frame pump that breaks in half after a small drop is a big environmental waste.
- I have 0 idea how much raw material goes into a cartridge and I have 0 idea how much raw material goes into a full size frame pump.
- I very much doubt that most people test their pump before every ride to ensure it is working. So a seal dries out over time since a pump is used rarely, and it doesnt work when finally needed. Thats on the person for not testing before every ride, I guess, but its like blaming someone for not reading itunes TOS since so few test every part of their bike before every ride.



Ease up, my goodness.
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