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Old 01-30-23, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Claude.fr
In my books Paris Brest Paris **Randonneur** isn’t Liège-Bastogne-Liège, which is a Pro race.
PBP race ended in 1951.
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PBP is organized under the Federation Francaise de Cyclo Tourisme umbrella by Audax Club Parisien (ACP) un club cyclotouriste fondé en 1904.

Totally agree, we are talking cycling tourism or cyclotourisme, in French.
Nothing unreasonable in my expectations, Right ?

For comparison, Check RATN, which unlike the amicable PBP randonnée is a race, the clue is in the name.

RATN, @1957km is considerably longer than PBP, cursory look at a map tells me that it’s ridden principally on dedicated cycling lanes+ some inevitable MUPs in a country which population density is nowhere near to compare with empty central Brittany.

Young Sherry, 1st female, rode 1957km in 5 days, 13hrs, 50min abiding by driving code and even respecting traffic lights. Go figure.

Spot the difference with French laggards i.e. infrastructure for cyclists ?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GizinjNwZ0Y
Look, I don't like this discussion, MUPs have a speed limit of 10 or 15 mph. My touring speed is higher than that on my upright and much higher on my recumbent. I don't care for paths. Ok? I did not like the little path on PBP where I was constantly forced off the road as mentioned earlier. Your comparison to professional races is stupid.
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