Originally Posted by
2old
Out here in socal I see a lot of kids, seniors and individuals who don't pedal riding hubs (almost exclusively none pedal because over 15 - 20 mph their pedaling is all of the "ghost" variety anyway). All of the major bike manufacturers (Specialized, Trek, Pivot, Santa Cruz, Bulls, Haibike ........) manufacture only PAS mid-drives. Those are the only bikes that I see off road. It's up to the individual; do you want to ride or drive?
Fact is: majority (sheer number) of ebikes that are manufactured and sold are hub drive over mid drive.
Hub drive ebikes suit the majority of people that are out there "riding" not "driving"; regardless how they use their motor output.
What's considered off-road? is hard-pack, rails to trail type considered off-road?
You talk about "inane arguments" in your previous post, but ask for the difference between "ride" vs "drive" on ebikes?