Originally Posted by cyccommute;
You keep moving the goal posts. Now they have to be tubeless ready. That can be changed if desired. Or you can do tubeless the old school way.
You seem to be under the impression that we're having an argument. I had just noticed that, unlike their gravel lines, the hybrids don't come with tubeless-ready wheels, and was wondering if that's how Trek/Spec makes their distinction between the categories, if they're so otherwise similar.
Originally Posted by cyccommute;
A “gravel bike” is kind of nebulous as well. There’s racing, all road, gravel, bikepacking, etc. It’s just as open a term as “hybrid”. In fact, “hybrid” is probably a better name since gravel bikes are just road bike built to act like a 1990 mountain bike or a 1990 mountain bike modified to act like a road bike.
The topic isn’t whether hybrids are really gravel bikes, or whether “gravel” is a nebulous word, or whether “hybrid” is the “better name.” The topic is whether the term “hybrid bike” still actually signifies the
merging of two things, and if so, what are they?