Originally Posted by
shelbyfv
Not wrong about you and science though, am I?
You are most assuredly wrong about this. I can only imagine what else.
Originally Posted by
veganbikes
VegasJen
There is nothing political about sustainability unless you make it so. We all live on this planet together and if we trash it completely well we trash it for everyone regardless of political or non-political affiliation. Fascists, Conservatives, Liberals, Libertarians, Socialists, Anarchists, Parliamentarians, Nihilists, Theocrats, Autocrats... wherever you are on the political spectrum and also all of those who aren't on the political spectrum are all effected without any regard to any of that. It is the don't drop a load of fecal matter where you sleep idea.
I am sorry you fail to realize that and must make things political because so many people these days feel the need to do that for some silly reason.
A bicycle that will last longer and be able to be reused or recycled has no politics attached. It is an inanimate object that does so many great things for so many people all over the world. You are here presumably because you like bicycles why does it have to then be political? If you don't like bikes and prefer politics then find a good political forum I can imagine there are plenty of those for all over the spectrum so you can find a community to suit your political beliefs if that is so needed.
To me a long lasting bicycle of quality that is better for the place I live and would like to continue living for a very long life, sounds like a win-win and doesn't need to get involved in anything more than some fun times on the trail or road or wherever you want to ride : )
I disagree. "Sustainability" is now a buzz word inexorably linked to a particular agenda. And that agenda is particularly political. And for the record, I hate politics. I hate it with a passion. Sadly, it has seeped into every facet of daily life. You can't listen to music without it. You can't watch a movie without it. You can't enjoy a football game without it. It's like the Matrix now. It is everywhere. It is inescapable.
For those of you still in denial, there is a very simple formula you need to learn and apply to your daily life: X + politics = politics, where X is any subject you choose. For example, sports + politics = politics, music + politics = politics, environment + politics = politics, weather + politics = politics, etc, etc. Politics is like a cancer. It is all-consuming. It devours and suffocates and consumes everything it touches.
As for me, I'm old enough to remember a time when you could watch the nightly news all week and you might not hear or see a single thing about Washington DC. Those days are long gone. The cancer has spread. So please, don't blow smoke up my butt and tell me it's sunshine, because, sweetheart, I'm old enough to know better.
Originally Posted by
mstateglfr
I enjoy your counter posts. Not because I agree with the., and not because I think it's noble to take the unpopular opinion. I enjoy them because a petty and shallow part of me actually smiles when I see someone spouting ignorance with confidence. It's just a genuinely enjoyable experience.
I wish I were a better person and didn't find such joy, but it's fine because I still sleep well knowing I am better than some others.
Irony. I could say exactly the same thing about you.
