livedarklions

It is when it's crappy. That's an absurd statement, a lot of advocacy on all sorts of subjects is either completely ineffective or actually backfires. There's a dead subforum in this forum that's a monument to bad advocacy. No one is interested in even discussing its subject matter anymore.

Endless "all drivers are texting" posts aren't convincing or helpful. And this endless bickering about the causes of individual fatalities? That's not even advocacy. It's a bunch of people pretending they know what they're talking about and fooling no one but themselves.

There used to be some decent discussion on this forum, but I think all the "X killed in _____" threads have turned this into a forum almost nobody bothers with anymore.