Yes those Dissents look nice. They are an outer shell with no insulation, I looked for something like that but could not find it. Well, it turns out the Assos RSR Thermo I mentioned above are in fact a shell.. the full name is Assos RSR Thermo Rain Shell … doh! One of these waterproof shells seems like the way to go, they could be used from 30s to 60s in theory with the right layering. The Showers Pass I can see how would not cut it when it got colder.